Thursday, March 03, 2005
Two Ideas
Some Crazy Ideas I've been thinking this morning

1. Tournament - Of course I dont think this will happen, but woudn't it be great if at the some point, we can setup a tournament for the knights? A double-round-robin, all-play-all tournament for the knights of dela maza? Sort of like the great St. Petersburg Tournament 1912.

In karate kid2, before meeting with his old rival, Mr. Miyagi settled his estate.He knows that he could be defeated because "We had the same teacher". Isnt a tournament between knights the same. We have the same teacher. The same philosophy. Now all we need to do is find out who is first student Mr. Pattern among us.

This will also answer a question of mine - Since a chess game is largely determined in part by pattern recognition, if two person having the same exact set of patterns play - what will happen? Ideally, if two knights trained from CTART, and memorized the patterns of the same problems - what will enable one of them to win against another? Or will it end in a draw. Of course perfect pattern match between two persons does not exists, but this is as close as it gets to having such a state.

Then after the tournament, each players will annotate the game. I'd give a pretty penny to know my fellow knights thoughts during a game. Who knows, maybe Don will compile the annotations and create the great Knight DelaMaza Tournament 2005.

Maybe the 2105 DLM students will read the tournament book and tell everybody all about us. =>

2. Book - If I were a little less lazy, and if I have the credentials, I'd make a book out of us knights I mean, tell me this isn't a great environment for laboratory-like experimentation. We have here a group of people all working towards the same goal, using roughly the same training method. I can't think of a better environment in which to monitor a group of player's chess progress.

First we'll group the subjects according to the training method used like so -
Group 1: 7Circles: Don, Sancho, etc..
Group 2: 10Cricles: PMD, GK, etc...

Then carefully plot the development of the knights. A ton of graphs will be produced here. Using those graphs, We can at the end, determine who showed the most relative improvement. Logically those who showed the most improvement would have had used the most efficient traning method. All kinds of analysis can made here. The most stunning conclusions can be achieved. Also, most accepted chess-related topics can be objectively discussed. You name it, thought process's, pattern recognitions, calculating ability..

Heck, we can even add interviews of the knights. Maybe even include a chapter on the knights being shown a position and explaining what they think of. Sort of like Mr. Groot experiment and Mr. Silmans "The Amateurs Mind". But with one big difference, the book can show the thought process of a player before and after the training.

Interested already? C'mon now, you know you are...

We can then pay a GM, and a some PHD guy with a foreign sounding name, and publish the book under them:

"The Secret of Chess Improvement:
A Scientific Approach to gain 400 points in 400 days
By GM Nikolai Tsikivlisht and Dr. Marc Groening P.H.D."

I could almost see now the praise being lavished -
  • "Wonderful, I can feel my rating increasing already",
  • "A book that history will not forget. Lots of thanks to Dr. Groening and GM
    Tsikivlisht for opening the doors of chess improvement".
  • "No other book before or since has so captivated me",
  • "Very hard to put down. Choke full of practical help",
  • "Now this is what I call real chess"

    We'll expect the usual unwashed critics of course -
  • "How can you repeat solving the same set of exercises over and over again?"
  • "Well, I want to have a life too"
    and my personnal favorite
  • "Tactics is not everything"

    But I mean, I'm serious. Who woudnt want to buy this book? For a book like this, we can charge $30 per copy. We can then watch the money come-in, retire in hawai, and spend the rest of the day sipping juice from glasses with little red cherries and green umbrellas.

    Ahhhh... yes..

    Status Report
    Chapter 9: Blockade - 3 Circles completed
    Chapter 10: Demolition of Pawn structure - Starting
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    posted by Nezha at 12:05 AM | Permalink |


    8 Comments:


    • At 3:28 AM, Anonymous logis

      Although i like the idea of a tournament between Knights i doubt the book idea is good a this moment, but that is my personal oppinion.

      Not being a Knight myself i would love to see how you (tactical traniees of MdlM play against eachother). Just to see if the games are won by tactics (since you all devote your chess study to it) or by positional play due to the fact you don't want to play tactical because you are affraid of your fellow Knights tactical bagage.

      A friend of the Knights,
      logis
      http://logis.modblog.com

       
    • At 4:55 AM, Blogger Temposchlucker

      Your post is very funny!
      But dreaming about books and results is not the reason I joined the Knights. Yesterday evening I read some posts on a few chess improvement forums. What they wrote there was a lot of chit-chat about what probably would happen if one should follow this or that trainingsmethod. A lot of semantics misunderstanding too.
      What I like about the Knights is that they are working.
      So I like to do the things in the following order:
      1st: get results
      2st: have a big mouth and chit-chat.
      Not the other way around.

       
    • At 5:22 AM, Blogger Don Q.

      One of the great virtues of de la Maza's program is that it is simple. You either do the problems or not, so it is easy to define whether or not you have suceeded. No doubt there are more effective programs, but many seem forever to debate the ulitmate study program without actually starting it.

       
    • At 5:26 AM, Blogger Don Q.

      Re: the book. The group does seem to have some momentum. We'll see where it leads, but I think we a long way off from a movement. Since the subject has been outlined in de la Maza's book "Rapid Chess Improvement" perhaps an interesting option might be to have some of the Knights quests integrated into a second edition of "Rapid Chess Improvement".

       
    • At 12:28 PM, Blogger Pale Morning Dun - Errant Knight de la Maza

      Ah the old belief... amateur chess improvement inevitably leads to obtaining mass wealth and power.

      I think you are right. There is an experiment going on here. And I have to agree with Don and Tempo. The biggest difference between the knights and everyone else, is that we are actually making a concerted, organized effort at improvement. I have yet to hear negative criticism from anyone who has completed the program. I've heard lots of negative criticism from people who haven't even tried.

      I'll see you in Hawaii.

       
    • At 7:04 PM, Blogger King of the Spill

      I want to believe "amateur chess improvement inevitably leads to obtaining mass wealth and power. "

      Is there a pill to make it happen?!

       
    • At 7:47 PM, Blogger generalkaia

      I am really enjoying your site. I like the thought you put into it. The idea of an all-knight tournament is intriguing. I think that the best way to really get that started is to post some comments on the sites of the founding fathers' sites (PMD, Sancho, Man DLM, etc.) and let them know about it. If there is interest, get e-mails and we can try to coordinate a tourney. It sounds like fun.

      generalkaia

       
    • At 9:38 PM, Blogger Nezha

      Hey GK, surprised to hear from you, glad to have you back..